PVI AP Vergil 2009-2010

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9 Jan 2010 Blog Topic

For some further inspiration, I offer this topic to you:


"Aspera tum positis mitescent saecula bellis;
cana Fides, et Vesta, Remo cum fratre Quirinus 
iura dabunt; dirae ferro et compagibus artis
claudentur Bellis portae; Furor impius intus 
saeva sedens super arma et centum vinctus aenis
post tergum nodis fremet horridus ore cruento."

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Created by Matthew Moore Jan 9, 2010 at 10:00am. Last updated by Matthew Moore Jan 9.

Blog Post 11/10/09

In Book 1, Line 220 (Praecipue pius Aeneas....), we see the use of "pius" as an epithet for the first time. Do you think the epithet is deserved? Support your reasoning from the text. Continue

Created by Matthew Moore Nov 10, 2009 at 1:35pm. Last updated by Matthew Moore Nov. 10, 2009.

Blog Post 11/5/2009

What figures of speech does Vergil use in I.204, and what is the effect for his speech? Continue

Created by Matthew Moore Nov 5, 2009 at 12:54pm. Last updated by Matthew Moore Nov. 5, 2009.

Your First Blog Post

If you recall, part of your participation grade will reflect online journaling about the Aeneid over the course of the year. To help you get started, here is a topic. I would get to it sooner rather than later. Make sure share it with the other members of the group, so we can all read and comment, which are also elements of your participation gra

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Created by Matthew Moore Sep 17, 2009 at 10:15am. Last updated by Matthew Moore Sep. 17, 2009.

Initial Setup

As a part of the intial set-up, make sure to friend all of the other class members, so they can read and comment on your blogs. Yes, you will be expected to blog. Continue

Created by Matthew Moore Jun 5, 2009 at 10:00am. Last updated by Matthew Moore Jun. 5, 2009.

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Created by Matthew Moore Jun 4, 2009 at 1:45pm. Last updated by Matthew Moore Jun. 4, 2009.

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Matthew Moore

A Thought on Aeneas

Reading the conversation between Aeneas and his mother, I initially thought that Aeneas was still being a whiny little punk -- "Why do I have to suffer so much? Why doesn't mommy love me?" -- but upon reflection, I can't but wonder if Vergil is simply expressing a human emotion, one not ordinarily associated with an epic hero.

We expect our heroes to face danger and disaster with equanimity and a pithy quote (we can blame modern action movies for that one). But the reality is much differ… Continue

Posted by Matthew Moore on January 30, 2010 at 6:29pm

Mickey Sheridan

I-394 "Iovis ales "

Is this another underhanded insult to Augustus? since so far, Augustus has been compared with Juppiter, so when Juppiter's bird attacks the swans, isnt that blaming him for the Trojan troubles? Maybe Virgil is trying to blame Augustus for the Roman Civil war.

Posted by Mickey Sheridan on January 28, 2010 at 6:58pm — 1 Comment

Mickey Sheridan

end of war

virgil may not be writing an epic about Augustus, but this is the next best thing. these lines clearly suck up to augustus. the talk of the civil war and the chained "fury" is just boosting Augustus even further.

Posted by Mickey Sheridan on January 28, 2010 at 6:54pm

Owen Scarbrough

I. 291 - 296 Post

In Book I lines 291-296, Vergil introduces a couple of things we must think about. Knowing the time Virgil wrote this, the introduction of the idea of Civil war being settled down by Jupiter must appeal to the people who read this. How Virgil writes this, it makes them think that Augustus will do the same, he will end all civil wars. This is Virgil adding his suck up lines to Augustus because he was supposed to write it for him. He makes Augustus come off as god-like by comparing him and Jupiter… Continue

Posted by Owen Scarbrough on January 21, 2010 at 9:20pm

D.J. La Velle

civil war = bad, peace = Augustus rules, Virgil = suck-up

In I. 291 - 296 of the Aeneid, Jupiter talks about the future of Rome. He mentions that "Vesta and white (haired) Good Faith, Remus with his brother Romulus will give the laws" (cana...dabunt, I. 292-293) and gives a long winded simile about the "madness of civil war" (Furor, I. 294) being a monster that's chained and locked away. The significance of these lines has a lot to do with what the Roman audience had just been through in their own lives. At the time when Virgil was writing the Aeneid,… Continue

Posted by D.J. La Velle on January 20, 2010 at 10:02pm

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Reading the conversation between Aeneas and his mother, I initially thought that Aeneas was still being a whiny little punk -- "Why do I have to suffer so much? Why doesn't mommy love me?" -- but upon reflection, I can't but wonder if Vergil is simp…
January 30
Not necessarily - Augustus's personal deity was Apollo, not Jove. It could be that Vergil was asserting that the civil war was due to the will of the gods, and for a better purpose, which was the establishment of the principate.
January 30
Mickey Sheridan added 2 blog posts
January 28
Owen Scarbrough added a blog post
In Book I lines 291-296, Vergil introduces a couple of things we must think about. Knowing the time Virgil wrote this, the introduction of the idea of Civil war being settled down by Jupiter must appeal to the people who read this. How Virgil writes…
January 21
oops. I meant to say Aeneas there, not Neptune...
January 21
when was there anything bad about Neptune?
January 20
D.J. La Velle added a blog post
In I. 291 - 296 of the Aeneid, Jupiter talks about the future of Rome. He mentions that "Vesta and white (haired) Good Faith, Remus with his brother Romulus will give the laws" (cana...dabunt, I. 292-293) and gives a long winded simile about the "ma…
January 20
A note by Matthew Moore was featured
For some further inspiration, I offer this topic to you: "Aspera tum positis mitescent saecula bellis; cana Fides, et Vesta, Remo cum fratre Quirinus  iura dabunt; dirae ferro et compagibus artis claudentur Bellis portae; Furor impius intus  saeva…
January 9
Matthew Moore added a note
For some further inspiration, I offer this topic to you: "Aspera tum positis mitescent saecula bellis; cana Fides, et Vesta, Remo cum fratre Quirinus  iura dabunt; dirae ferro et compagibus artis claudentur Bellis portae; Furor impius intus  saeva…
January 9
thats a good point, katie. all of the gods that do good are ones that Augustus could connect with, like Juppiter and Neptune. so mentioning the wisdom of a god that Augustus couldn't connect with could come off as an insult. Vergil also probably did…
January 7
the gods also sort of come off as a comic relief. their whining tones down all the serious action scenes, like venus after the storm.
January 7
Mary Frank added a blog post
So if Vergil is supposed to have written this for Augustus, then Augustus would understand that he is compared to Aeneas and Neptune, right? But then wouldn't Augustus be upset about all the bad things that Vergil puts in there too? Because everyone…
January 3
maybe she was trying to make it seem like she wasn't actually trying to help him. that way Juno and the others couldn't complain about her actions.
January 3
I see your point. I think it's kind of weird that nothing happens in the story without some god's involvement.
January 3
Clare Smith added a blog post
Why does Venus disguise herself as a huntress when she meets Aeneas in the forest? Was there any need for her to diguise herself? Aeneas did figure out it was his mother eventually so it's not like she was trying really hard to keep it a secret. In…
January 3
Katie Kondas added a blog post
So what is the deal with the Gods "playing God." Just about everything that happens in this poem is caused in some way by the Gods. They all have their fingers in this plot. They all at some point make sure something happens by their hand (referring…
January 3

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